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The Jehovah's Witnesses will? Or God's will?

by etan 4 U in

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all of you shall rejoice!

you will be so very happy that you will even sing!

for you will all see the glory of our god.

etan 4 U

TO Agent 1 of 1: This scripture is only one of many that shows excatly what God's will is.

The waste land and the dry places will be glad; the lowland will have joy and be full of flowers.

It will be flowering like the rose; it will be full of delight and songs; the glory of Lebanon will be given to it; the pride of Carmel and Sharon: they will see the glory of the Lord, the power of our God.

Make strong the feeble hands, give support to the shaking knees.

Say to those who are full of fear, Be strong and take heart: see, your God will give punishment; the reward of God will come; he himself will come to be your saviour.

Then the eyes of the blind will see, and the ears which are stopped will be open.

Then will the feeble-footed be jumping like a roe, and the voice which was stopped will be loud in song: for in the waste land streams will be bursting out, and waters in the dry places.

And the burning sand will become a pool, and the dry earth springs of waters: the fields where the sheep take their food will become wet land, and water-plants will take the place of grass.

And a highway will be there; its name will be, The Holy Way; the unclean and the sinner may not go over it, and those who go on it will not be turned out of the way by the foolish.

No lion will be there, or any cruel beast; they will not be seen there; but those for whom the Lord has given a price,

Even those whom he has made free, will come back again; they will come with songs to Zion; on their heads will be eternal joy; delight and joy will be theirs, and sorrow and sounds of grief will be gone for ever.

TO ohiocowboy:

Nature is what God brought to life. You do see God's works but you doubt yourself because there is no excuse not to see God's wonderful works. I was also once disfellowshipped; but that brought me closer to God than before. I read the bible because I want to understand why such things continue. As you said...

Is this the same God that was insistant of the murders of untold thousands of people throughout Bible history, and firstborn children? Is this the same God that loved the smell of burning flesh of innocent animals in sacrifice? And is this the same God who admits to being jeaulous, and of having a "Bad Spirit"? Or, could it be the same God that has allowed untold heartache and suffering to his people for thousands of years?

God had given all these people life. Is it not his choice to take life away? I believe that he doesn't want to take any life away but to make sure everyone that had lived will become saved through Jesus. Because we have Jesus ransom today we are not under law but under God's loving kindness. Not to say that there is no law but that there is Jesus there for us to be repentful of our sins so that we may live. They did not have Jesus' blood back then so when they payed for their sin, they paid it with their own blood by death. Also they used sacrafices as well to cover over their sins and yet exult God. It seems to be that because of Cain and Abel the first animal sacrafice mentioned in the bible would set a standered for time to come. Cain offered fruits but that wasn't the problem it was Cain's HATE of his brother that was the issue.

People did sacrafice animals, but anyone can sacrafice anything to God. I sacrafice time, time to read more about him and what he wishes to accomplish and how I can help in any way.

When you created all things and yet these people ignore you and love something he created rather than himself... I think thats good reason for him to be jellous.

Now as for heart ache for thousands of years I would say this is very true especially to what happened with you. Disfellowhipping is the worst yes. God has shown you the worst of the Jehovah's Witnesses. And its only the Jehovah's Witnesses saying that they have the absolute 'TRUTH' has got you to the stage of saying... there is no other religion and there must be no god.....

You sound very sure of what you would do when you have a child. Are you a dad?

God teaches lovingly, God does not torture or play arround. He lets everyone do what they want, these people are very much free with a freedom to choice....

Even those whom he has made free, will come back again; they will come with songs to Zion; on their heads will be eternal joy

If the Witnesses wanted to make sure you were miserable it was them. It was not God, I consider myself to be very lucky to be disfellowshipped because I am able to look at the Witnesses from seeing their pride by the pride that I once had. Knowing at least that their disfellowshipping was wrong it was obviious that there was more things wrong with the witnesses that I continued finding out. But they want you to be horrable and feel bad, not God. He gave you life to live. You know the things that are right and wrong you don't need anyone to tell you those things... but it does sound like you need a boost of encouragement which I would say everyone needs that are disfellowshipped. The bible encourages, and thats why I post scriptures and every time I post a scripture nobody seems to understand but I am still trying....

Etan

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The Jehovah's Witnesses will? Or God's will?

by etan 4 U in

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all of you shall rejoice!

you will be so very happy that you will even sing!

for you will all see the glory of our god.

etan 4 U

ok OK You guys didn't like my translation... do you like this one?

The waste land and the dry places will be glad; the lowland will have joy and be full of flowers.

It will be flowering like the rose; it will be full of delight and songs; the glory of Lebanon will be given to it; the pride of Carmel and Sharon: they will see the glory of the Lord, the power of our God.

Make strong the feeble hands, give support to the shaking knees.

Say to those who are full of fear, Be strong and take heart: see, your God will give punishment; the reward of God will come; he himself will come to be your saviour.

Then the eyes of the blind will see, and the ears which are stopped will be open.

Then will the feeble-footed be jumping like a roe, and the voice which was stopped will be loud in song: for in the waste land streams will be bursting out, and waters in the dry places.

And the burning sand will become a pool, and the dry earth springs of waters: the fields where the sheep take their food will become wet land, and water-plants will take the place of grass.

And a highway will be there; its name will be, The Holy Way; the unclean and the sinner may not go over it, and those who go on it will not be turned out of the way by the foolish.

No lion will be there, or any cruel beast; they will not be seen there; but those for whom the Lord has given a price,

Even those whom he has made free, will come back again; they will come with songs to Zion; on their heads will be eternal joy; delight and joy will be theirs, and sorrow and sounds of grief will be gone for ever.

I would like to know why you would mock the bible! If I tried to talk to you about scriptures you do not read the scriptures. If I put the scriptures in my own words and only the scriptures not my opionions, why do you mock that? Do you hate Me? Do you hate God? Where is your love when God loves you all? Please Explain.

Etan

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The Jehovah's Witnesses will? Or God's will?

by etan 4 U in

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friends

all of you shall rejoice!

you will be so very happy that you will even sing!

for you will all see the glory of our god.

etan 4 U

All of you shall rejoice! You will be so very happy that you will even sing! For you will all see the glory of our God. God will strengthen all of you, because he is the one who strengthens the weak. If you couldn't walk anymore God will make you stand up straight. Are you affraid of ones that seem to be incharge? If the Witnesses were being controled would you fear for those peoples lives? God says to be strong. Your God comes with a vengeance. Many will also be rewarded when he comes. But God comes to save you all!

If the Jehovah's Witnesses don't listen to your posts now and do not hear you and ignore you like thin air... Will not God open their eyes, will not GOD open their deaf ears. For they must listen to God. So if you can't stand striaght now, you will at that time. At this time if you are a Witness for you have no love for anyone other than simmalar Witnesses. If your disfellowshiped you have been cast out. Maybe you feel as Moses did to be thrown from the riches of Egypt and now must travel through the hot desert. If they sent him away with no love and with little water out into wilderness. And You being sent out without any love for you by the Witnesses.... God will show his love to you, if it was a burning dessert they threw you out onto, God will turn that burning sand into a pool. He will turn the desert into a wetland for you. He will not let you get thirsty or hungery. God is comming to save you. As if God had brought all the high places down to nothing and brought the deep valleys up he will make your way an easy one.

If you let God lead you in your life to show you were to go. You will not want to do your will but the will of your Heavenly Father. Nothing stands in your way doing the will of our God. Doing his will he will not let any wild beast come and stop you. For God is returning and you will sing because of the joy you will have.

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What does a Jehovah's Witness think of himself? How do you veiw yourself?

by etan 4 U in

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god does not want you people to worry but to have comfort.

for all people your errors have been pardoned.

with every sin you have done, for you have been pardoned if not once but yet a second time.

etan 4 U

There is much pride with the Jehovah's Witnesses. Do you plan to crush their pride by putting up posts or do you think God would get rid of their pride?

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What does a Jehovah's Witness think of himself? How do you veiw yourself?

by etan 4 U in

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god does not want you people to worry but to have comfort.

for all people your errors have been pardoned.

with every sin you have done, for you have been pardoned if not once but yet a second time.

etan 4 U

God does not want you people to worry but to have comfort. For all people your errors have been pardoned. With every sin you have done, for you have been pardoned if not once but yet a second time. For your sin was so great that God would make sure of a full pardon. But please pay attention, that when you hear someone cry to you saying you will be one upon god shall look upon. God is watching you and God is in control of everything. God has a plan he wishes to accomplish, and he will show this all to you. But you must be willing to do what he wishes of you not as what you want. If you do not see what God's plan is, you will. Any difficulty that you have God will raise you up. Anything that may get in your way he will bring it down. God will show you his glory. None would be left in the shadows of doubt all would see it together.

But you must cry. You will all die. You have no strength as people. But you know God has strength. You know Jesus has strength. Jesus would take care of you. If it were God looking out for you there would be enough dirt beneath your feet, you would get all the water you need. God has a strong and mighty hand, This Is Your God! Look to see his strong arm and see all of his work! Your God does good work and takes much good care of everyone and everything. But do you know just how much dirt is under your feet, do you know how much water the mountains need?

He brings kings and queens to nothing. He brings you to life, and in a short time before you had much time to grow you become weak and it would take only very little to end a life.

Who of you consider yourself great? Who would compare yourself to God?
See SEE who is up high! Look at what has all been created! In number by name they all are called by the greatness of Gods might, for God is strong in power with everything in proper place.
Why could you not see God in your life? Do you not see God is in your life and he has not cast a judgment. Maybe you've become tired. God is not tired. He gives power to the weak. God will increase your strength if you have none at all. Even the young men will become tired, and the best of them will come to his end. But those who are waiting for the Lord will have new strength; they will get wings like eagles: running, they will not be tired, and walking they will have no weariness.

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TO EVERYONE JWs, EX-JWS, NON-JWS, and all you yahoos.......

by etan 4 U in

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"listen!!

the green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered; but as for the word of our god, it will last to time indefinite.

see the glory of our god and his splendor exult!

etan 4 U

"LISTEN!! All flesh is green grass , and all their loving-kindness is like the blossom of the field. The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered, because the very spirit of Jehovah has blown upon it. Surely the people are green grass. The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered; but as for the word of our God, it will last to time indefinite.

EXULT

!! See the glory of our god and his splendor EXULT! Do not let a jackal or a JW or wild beast prove its residing place close to you. Because of this desert plain and the dried grass the lions will devour you as a blade of grass and anyone and everyone they can. Be comforted for God's people will be. You will make the highway for god, he is comming will you be grass or will you blossom? Will god see your loving kindness? will you be a blossom in the middle of a desert? God will come, EXULT because he comes with a vengance. REPENT, He will himself will come and SAVE you people!

Isaiah Ch 35

35 The wilderness and the waterless region will exult, and the desert plain will be joyful and blossom as the saffron. 2 Without fail it will blossom, and it will really be joyful with joyousness and with glad crying out. The glory of Leb'a·non itself must be given to it, the splendor of Car'mel and of Shar'on. There will be those who will see the glory of Jehovah, the splendor of our God.

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Strengthen the weak hands, YOU people, and make the knees that are wobbling firm. 4 Say to those who are anxious at heart: "Be strong. Do not be afraid. Look! Y OUR own God will come with vengeance itself, God even with a repayment. He himself will come and save YOU people."

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At that time the eyes of the blind ones will be opened, and the very ears of the deaf ones will be unstopped. 6 At that time the lame one will climb up just as a stag does, and the tongue of the speechless one will cry out in gladness. For in the wilderness waters will have burst out, and torrents in the desert plain. 7 And the heat-parched ground will have become as a reedy pool, and the thirsty ground as springs of water. In the abiding place of jackals, a resting-place for [them], there will be green grass with reeds and papyrus plants.

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And there will certainly come to be a highway there, even a way; and the Way of Holiness it will be called. The unclean one will not pass over it. And it will be for the one walking on the way, and no foolish ones will wander about [on it]. 9 No lion will prove to be there, and the rapacious sort of wild beasts will not come up on it. None will be found there; and the repurchased ones must walk [there]. 10 And the very ones redeemed by Jehovah will return and certainly come to Zion with a joyful cry; and rejoicing to time indefinite will be upon their head. To exultation and rejoicing they will attain, and grief and sighing must flee away.

Ch 40

40

"C OMFORT , comfort my people," says the God of YOU men. 2 "S PEAK to the heart of Jerusalem and call out to her that her military service has been fulfilled, that her error has been paid off. For from the hand of Jehovah she has received a full amount for all her sins."

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Listen! Someone is calling out in the wilderness: "Clear up the way of Jehovah, YOU people! M AKE the highway for our God through the desert plain straight. 4 Let every valley be raised up, and every mountain and hill be made low. And the knobby ground must become level land, and the rugged ground a valley plain. 5 And the glory of Jehovah will certainly be revealed, and all flesh must see [it] together, for the very mouth of Jehovah has spoken [it]."

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Listen! Someone is saying: "Call out!" And one said: "What shall I call out?"

"All flesh is green grass, and all their loving-kindness is like the blossom of the field.

7 The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered, because the very spirit of Jehovah has blown upon it. Surely the people are green grass. 8 The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered; but as for the word of our God, it will last to time indefinite."

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Make your way up even onto a high mountain, you woman bringing good news for Zion. Raise your voice even with power, you woman bringing good news for Jerusalem. Raise [it]. Do not be afraid. Say to the cities of Judah: "Here is YOUR God." 10 Look! The Sovereign Lord Jehovah himself will come even as a strong one, and his arm will be ruling for him. Look! His reward is with him, and the wage he pays is before him. 11 Like a shepherd he will shepherd his own drove. With his arm he will collect together the lambs; and in his bosom he will carry [them]. Those giving suck he will conduct [with care].

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To all you: Witnesses and EX-Witnesses and NON-Witnesses and yahoos....

by etan 4 U in

all flesh is green grass , and all their loving-kindness is like the blossom of the field.

the green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered, because the very spirit of jehovah has blown upon it.

surely the people are green grass.

etan 4 U

"LISTEN!! All flesh is green grass , and all their loving-kindness is like the blossom of the field. The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered, because the very spirit of Jehovah has blown upon it. Surely the people are green grass. The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered; but as for the word of our God, it will last to time indefinite.

EXULT

!! See the glory of our god and his splendor EXULT! Do not let a jackal or a JW or wild beast prove its residing place close to you. Because of this desert plain and the dried grass the lions will devour you as a blade of grass and anyone and everyone they can. Be comforted for God's people will be. You will make the highway for god, he is comming will you be grass or will you blossom? Will god see your loving kindness? will you be a blossom in the middle of a desert? God will come, EXULT because he comes with a vengance. REPENT, He will himself will come and SAVE you people!

I encourage you all to do what is said in Matthew 3:3

Isaiah Ch 35

35 The wilderness and the waterless region will exult, and the desert plain will be joyful and blossom as the saffron. 2 Without fail it will blossom, and it will really be joyful with joyousness and with glad crying out. The glory of Leb'a·non itself must be given to it, the splendor of Car'mel and of Shar'on. There will be those who will see the glory of Jehovah, the splendor of our God.

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Strengthen the weak hands, YOU people, and make the knees that are wobbling firm. 4 Say to those who are anxious at heart: "Be strong. Do not be afraid. Look! Y OUR own God will come with vengeance itself, God even with a repayment. He himself will come and save YOU people."

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At that time the eyes of the blind ones will be opened, and the very ears of the deaf ones will be unstopped. 6 At that time the lame one will climb up just as a stag does, and the tongue of the speechless one will cry out in gladness. For in the wilderness waters will have burst out, and torrents in the desert plain. 7 And the heat-parched ground will have become as a reedy pool, and the thirsty ground as springs of water. In the abiding place of jackals, a resting-place for [them], there will be green grass with reeds and papyrus plants.

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And there will certainly come to be a highway there, even a way; and the Way of Holiness it will be called. The unclean one will not pass over it. And it will be for the one walking on the way, and no foolish ones will wander about [on it]. 9 No lion will prove to be there, and the rapacious sort of wild beasts will not come up on it. None will be found there; and the repurchased ones must walk [there]. 10 And the very ones redeemed by Jehovah will return and certainly come to Zion with a joyful cry; and rejoicing to time indefinite will be upon their head. To exultation and rejoicing they will attain, and grief and sighing must flee away.

Ch 40

40

"C OMFORT , comfort my people," says the God of YOU men. 2 "S PEAK to the heart of Jerusalem and call out to her that her military service has been fulfilled, that her error has been paid off. For from the hand of Jehovah she has received a full amount for all her sins."

3

Listen! Someone is calling out in the wilderness: "Clear up the way of Jehovah, YOU people! M AKE the highway for our God through the desert plain straight. 4 Let every valley be raised up, and every mountain and hill be made low. And the knobby ground must become level land, and the rugged ground a valley plain. 5 And the glory of Jehovah will certainly be revealed, and all flesh must see [it] together, for the very mouth of Jehovah has spoken [it]."

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Listen! Someone is saying: "Call out!" And one said: "What shall I call out?"

"All flesh is green grass, and all their loving-kindness is like the blossom of the field.

7 The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered, because the very spirit of Jehovah has blown upon it. Surely the people are green grass. 8 The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered; but as for the word of our God, it will last to time indefinite."

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Make your way up even onto a high mountain, you woman bringing good news for Zion. Raise your voice even with power, you woman bringing good news for Jerusalem. Raise [it]. Do not be afraid. Say to the cities of Judah: "Here is YOUR God." 10 Look! The Sovereign Lord Jehovah himself will come even as a strong one, and his arm will be ruling for him. Look! His reward is with him, and the wage he pays is before him. 11 Like a shepherd he will shepherd his own drove. With his arm he will collect together the lambs; and in his bosom he will carry [them]. Those giving suck he will conduct [with care].

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Confess by partaking at the Memorial? !!!

by etan 4 U in

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please answer the question at the bottom..... 2 cor 13:5-6

5 keep testing whether you are in the faith, keep proving what you yourselves are.

do you not recognize that jesus christ is in union with you

etan 4 U

please answer the question at the bottom....

2 Cor 13:5-6

5 Keep testing whether YOU are in the faith, keep proving what YOU yourselves are. Or do YOU not recognize that Jesus Christ is in union with YOU ? Unless YOU are disapproved. 6 I truly hope YOU will come to know we are not disapproved.

Romans 8:1-2 Therefore those in union with Christ Jesus have no condemnation . 2 For the law of that spirit which gives life in union with Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.

Mat 10:32 " Everyone , then, that confesses union with me before men , I will also confess union with him before my Father who is in the heavens;

Luke 12 : 8 "I say, then, to YOU , Everyone that confesses union with me before men , the Son of man will also confess union with him before the angels of God.

John 6: 56 He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him.

John 15:4-7 Remain in union with me, and I in union with YOU. Just as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it remains in the vine, in the same way neither can YOU, unless YOU remain in union with me. 5 I am the vine, YOU are the branches. He that remains in union with me, and I in union with him, this one bears much fruit; because apart from me YOU can do nothing at all. 6 If anyone does not remain in union with me, he is cast out as a branch and is dried up; and men gather those branches up and pitch them into the fire and they are burned. 7 If YOU remain in union with me and my sayings remain in YOU, ask whatever YOU wish and it will take place for YOU.

Gal 3:28,29

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for YOU are all one [person] in union with Christ Jesus. 29 Moreover, if YOU belong to Christ, YOU are really Abraham?s seed, heirs with reference to a promise.

Phil 3:4-11

If any other man thinks he has grounds for confidence in the flesh, I the more so: 5 circumcised the eighth day, out of the family stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew [born] from Hebrews; as respects law, a Pharisee; 6 as respects zeal, persecuting the congregation; as respects righteousness that is by means of law, one who proved himself blameless. 7 Yet what things were gains to me, these I have considered loss on account of the Christ. 8 Why, for that matter, I do indeed also consider all things to be loss on account of the excelling value of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord. On account of him I have taken the loss of all things and I consider them as a lot of refuse, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in union with him, having, not my own righteousness, which results from law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness that issues from God on the basis of faith, 10 so as to know him and the power of his resurrection and a sharing in his sufferings, submitting myself to a death like his, 11 [to see] if I may by any means attain to the earlier resurrection from the dead .

If Jesus asked you to confess union with him before men by feeding on his flesh and drinking his blood at the memmorial would you?

Read

the Green!

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ARE YOU IN UNION

by etan 4 U in

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to those who do not partake of the memorial emblems..... the jws feel that the ones that partake (remaining 144,000) are the ones that jesus establishes the new covanant with then what covanant is the great crowd in?

to be in union with christ and to have everlasting life jesus said to eat and drink of his body and blood ( john 6:54-56).

so to eat of the bread ( his body) and to drink of the wine ( his blood) why not eat and drink to be in union with him.

etan 4 U

To those who do not partake of the memorial emblems....

The JWs feel that the ones that partake (remaining 144,000) are the ones that Jesus establishes the new covanant with then what covanant is the great crowd in?

To be in union with Christ and to have Everlasting life Jesus said to Eat and Drink of his body and blood ( John 6:54-56). So to eat of the bread ( his body) and to drink of the wine ( his blood) why not EAT and DRINK to be in union with him.

Can you say that you are not in union with him?

Romans Chapter 8

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Therefore those in union with Christ Jesus have no condemnation. 2 For the law of that spirit which gives life in union with Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For, there being an incapability on the part of the Law, while it was weak through the flesh, God, by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us who walk, not in accord with the flesh, but in accord with the spirit.

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For all who are led by God?s spirit, these are God?s sons. 15 For YOU did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but YOU received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: "Abba, Father!" 16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God?s children. 17 If, then, we are children, we are also heirs: heirs indeed of God, but joint heirs with Christ, provided we suffer together that we may also be glorified together.

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To Partake or Not to Partake THAT IS THE QUESTION!

by etan 4 U in

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to partake or not to partake that is the question!

i need some questions answered maybe you all can help.

is it because they wish to be of an earthly resurection?

etan 4 U

To ebay...

Thank you for the research you did. At the time the people chased Jesus down asking for a second helping to the fish and bread. Jesus replied that they should be comming to him believing that in order to truly stay alive and not grow hungry they must eat the bread of God, Jesus. To not get thursty they must exercise faith in him.

Verse 40 "everyone that beholds the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him at the last day"

Verse 54 "He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I shall resurrect him at the last day."

They could behold him back then the same as eating the bread today. Exercising faith (or believing) in him that by his outpouring of his innocent blood would bring an everlasting life to the sinful people back then ; is the same as today by drinking that blood (wine) as a display of exercising faith in him.

Those people back then had the ability to see and believe right there in front of their own eyes there was no need for a symbolic refference as today where we cannot see him but he said to remember him by eating the bread and (exercise faith) to show that the out pouring of his blood would establish a new covanant with us and for us to be apart of that covanant to drink of that wine.

We have the ability to come to christ and not get hungery by eating of that heavenly bread. But to then show that we believe in (his blood) the new covanant, that blood he spilt would bring us all in union and make us all brothers to Jesus.

To have Jesus inside your heart and remember him you must eat his body. To be in agreement (to exercise faith) of a new covanant that shows that Jesus was merciful to you and you can be merciful to others by drinking his blood he had to shed for you to live;

could you would you spill your blood to save your closest brother? We should all be in union and be brothers and to do that we must feed on christ and drink of his blessing the new covanant brings.